tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post4355914406169751835..comments2024-03-08T19:47:41.485+11:00Comments on Ascii Dreams: Request for Votes: Ascii Dreams Roguelike of the Year 2013Andrew Doullhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11099404183952971291noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-1662033245648128472014-09-24T05:43:12.054+10:002014-09-24T05:43:12.054+10:00Cataclysm dda is the best ...Cataclysm dda is the best ...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07687194987847211453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-37491218117141717412014-01-29T09:39:49.026+11:002014-01-29T09:39:49.026+11:00Liberal Crime Squad!Liberal Crime Squad!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12365512580468895986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-86079574003802224012014-01-21T10:46:58.164+11:002014-01-21T10:46:58.164+11:00I'm a big fan of Rogue Likes, but I feel like ...I'm a big fan of Rogue Likes, but I feel like this list is a bit unmanageable. In the future would it be possible to split them up in a tournament style where groups of 10 or so are voted on at a time and then move on to the next tier or something similar? This list doesn't seem very user friendly in my opinion. Voodoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14185099412256066112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-20522025422246535122014-01-03T13:30:44.918+11:002014-01-03T13:30:44.918+11:00Sweet fancy moses! I honestly just now highlit th...Sweet fancy moses! I honestly just now highlit the voting numbers. Those 3 games took 85% of all votes.<br /><br />Forget what I said about 75% of #1, anything with more than 5% of the total should be filterable if the vote stuffing is that bad. A sixth grader could code that up over recess.<br /><br />And it would keep the 'guys who just don't get the spirit of the thing' away from the people getting bent out of shape about ballot stuffing on a blogger poll dedicated to games most people never even heard of anyway.Seldon T. Scrantonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07637030622413650027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-58506050658606346952014-01-03T13:24:51.272+11:002014-01-03T13:24:51.272+11:00Here's an idea. Just have a vote number filte...Here's an idea. Just have a vote number filter.<br /><br />The voting is completely bi-modal anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. Visitors have an option to knock out games that got more than 75% of the winning tally, and kaboom, ADOM, ToME and Noxico are gone.<br /><br />Those that care about spiking their number still get first place, those that care about hearing about a cool new game just getting off the ground skip the noise and check out the best of the rest.Seldon T. Scrantonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07637030622413650027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-78890885451662518312014-01-02T16:01:06.415+11:002014-01-02T16:01:06.415+11:00The poll was always as much of a joke as it is thi...The poll was always as much of a joke as it is this year, it's just that this year the results have highlighted the fact. One couldn't for example claim that this year's result somehow doesn't count, but the results from previous years do.graspeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417948406807282590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-41122184324583874632014-01-02T16:00:37.728+11:002014-01-02T16:00:37.728+11:00The poll was always as much of a joke as it is thi...The poll was always as much of a joke as it is this year, it's just that this year the results have highlighted the fact. One couldn't for example claim that this year's result somehow doesn't count, but the results from previous years do.graspeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417948406807282590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-53229987461061793022014-01-01T01:33:02.595+11:002014-01-01T01:33:02.595+11:00The results are not even funny. Its not about that...The results are not even funny. Its not about that the obviously false voting for Noxico took the first place drom TOME, its about that that it took the much deserved third place from Cataclysm.<br /><br />PS: How much hours are you in front of me? That doesn't make sense. It's 3,30 PM 31. december here, you can't be 21 hours in front of me. Where did you get the the Time Machine? I want in. Tsusakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07288786526880808907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-51822397862362311592014-01-01T01:25:35.773+11:002014-01-01T01:25:35.773+11:00The results are not even funny. Its not about that...The results are not even funny. Its not about that the obvious false voting for Noxico took the win from T.O.M.E., but that it took the third much deserved place from Cataclysm.Tsusakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07288786526880808907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-29158872755593373352014-01-01T00:25:58.557+11:002014-01-01T00:25:58.557+11:00What about having 2 polls, one for free games and ...What about having 2 polls, one for free games and one for commercial games?raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12230953018294269154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-24961437879852998662014-01-01T00:17:14.598+11:002014-01-01T00:17:14.598+11:00In my eyes that's one rather negative aspect o...In my eyes that's one rather negative aspect of the net community: There are always some people around without any sense of sportsmanship and those people ruin the fun for big parts of the rest. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115097015446778398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-20144933739890888992014-01-01T00:03:24.095+11:002014-01-01T00:03:24.095+11:00Mr. OpenId... I don't recall seeing the ad for...Mr. OpenId... I don't recall seeing the ad for this in-game (not this year anyhow), and on tome website the advertising was kept to a minimum (it was much more explicit on ADOM website). In any case, I think Andrew should remove the 2ndary poll (as some people seem to take that even more seriously than the first one - check ADOM site).<br /><br />Abe Heronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00213172632867512423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-76579914714401209382013-12-31T23:57:42.617+11:002013-12-31T23:57:42.617+11:00Noxico wins! Hilarious.
I agree with your attitud...Noxico wins! Hilarious.<br /><br />I agree with your attitude here Andrew. People take this thing so seriously I bet it can ruin it for you, stress you out. This is your hobby, not your job, hobbies should be fun, rewarding, stimulating, not a huge chore.<br /><br />And all of these people telling you to change things can do their own polls however they want to. I'll vote in those one's too.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09866329313708655247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-6522516659713020402013-12-31T23:47:11.339+11:002013-12-31T23:47:11.339+11:00Darren's "lets not post a winner" is...Darren's "lets not post a winner" is certainly an option in the future, but doing it this year and only after the game he worked on fell out of first place seems rather spiteful. That would be like setting the rules because he didn't like the result.<br /><br />Also, "'Promotion of this poll from within a game itself is strongly discouraged and will be sanctioned if discovered. This includes using any kind of MotD or in game chat functionality which may already exist in the game.'" obviously andrew didn't go through with this, but for games not acting in spirit with the contest, you can't beat TOME4 for directly going against a request made by the poll's creator.<br /><br />I'm all for the part of Kornel's suggestion from last year that all previous winners be removed from eligability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-3749656964009644862013-12-31T23:46:45.700+11:002013-12-31T23:46:45.700+11:00Darren's "lets not post a winner" is...Darren's "lets not post a winner" is certainly an option in the future, but doing it this year and only after the game he worked on fell out of first place seems rather spiteful. That would be like setting the rules because he didn't like the result.<br /><br />Also, "'Promotion of this poll from within a game itself is strongly discouraged and will be sanctioned if discovered. This includes using any kind of MotD or in game chat functionality which may already exist in the game.'" obviously andrew didn't go through with this, but for games not acting in spirit with the contest, you can't beat TOME4 for directly going against a request made by the poll's creator.<br /><br />I'm all for the part of Kornel's suggestion from last year that all previous winners be removed from eligability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-13370755653199495292013-12-31T22:54:11.955+11:002013-12-31T22:54:11.955+11:00Darkgod - I dunno...I reckon suddenly deciding not...Darkgod - I dunno...I reckon suddenly deciding not to award anyone is sending the wrong message. As much as I wanted your game to win, I now think Noxico SHOULD win - not only because of pure numbers and the burden of proof, but also to spur some interesting discussion in the next RLR episode about the nature of open polls and the competitiveness of the community.Abe Heronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00213172632867512423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-28811526209141270002013-12-31T22:22:19.835+11:002013-12-31T22:22:19.835+11:00Abe, he is saying that both adom and noxico are ac...Abe, he is saying that both adom and noxico are actually part of tome since they are not "not tome"! :)Linaniil of the Kar'Krulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024097676060828945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-51445155983887667032013-12-31T22:21:54.712+11:002013-12-31T22:21:54.712+11:00I still think that a Review New Roguelikes Month w...I still think that a Review New Roguelikes Month would be more fun than a poll. Rather than reformulating what would be basically my comment from the request for votes of last year, I'll just quote that comment here: <br /><br />> I have a suggestion, based on the idea that, as you said, the point of the<br />> poll is to encourage "to go out and download a roguelike that other people<br />> consider interesting, not that there is any kind of real competition element<br />> involved". From next year on, instead of a doing the poll, start a blog-fest:<br />> propose the list of roguelikes and invite people to try a roguelike they have<br />> not played before, write a post about their experience and send you the link<br />> of the post, within an established period (a month, let's say); at the end,<br />> you make a summary post with all the links. The linked posts could be from<br />> blogs, but also from a thread created for the occasion in a roguelike forum.<br />> This way, we get to celebrate the roguelike world and discover and enjoy new<br />> games, avoiding a lot of negativity and bitterness.<br /><br />Maybe also put a Random Roguelike Generator which people can use to get the name of a roguelike to try out. <br />Since the number of forum threads may become overwhelming, you could ask that each forum which joins the roguelike-blog-fest sends you just a single link of a summary thread, which contains the links to the other relevant threads in the forum. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-46379351929196029472013-12-31T22:21:31.536+11:002013-12-31T22:21:31.536+11:00I concur with Darren, this travesty of a poll does...I concur with Darren, this travesty of a poll doesnt deserve a winner post.<br /><br />I dont concur with Darren about how to fix it though. Hiding it will just allow the bots to do their stuff in the shadows, without even people able to notice it.<br /><br />Make the poll require the voter to pay 1cents on paypal, exclude votes from the same paypal account. Now that will be way harder to script.<br /><br />PS: And fuck google I'm darkgod not linaniil!Linaniil of the Kar'Krulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024097676060828945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-17817412396699586442013-12-31T22:20:37.126+11:002013-12-31T22:20:37.126+11:00What? Wait... you are saying that "Not TOME&q...What? Wait... you are saying that "Not TOME" is not an actual RL? :(((Abe Heronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00213172632867512423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-25939601811179846872013-12-31T22:16:48.872+11:002013-12-31T22:16:48.872+11:00What? Wait... you are saying that "Not TOME&q...What? Wait... you are saying that "Not TOME" is not an actual RL? :(((Abe Heronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00213172632867512423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-18129673979974311772013-12-31T21:51:36.371+11:002013-12-31T21:51:36.371+11:00The joke poll I put up 8 hours ago now has more vo...The joke poll I put up 8 hours ago now has more votes than the 2009 poll had in its entirety...Andrew Doullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11099404183952971291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-40003951726486179122013-12-31T21:47:22.163+11:002013-12-31T21:47:22.163+11:00Also the ability to see the poll results before th...Also the ability to see the poll results before the end is just a recipe for disaster. We wouldn't have this crazy vote-pushing without that.Darren Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792164422274663420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-70873808413192436782013-12-31T20:17:44.977+11:002013-12-31T20:17:44.977+11:00The poll is great for finding out about those litt...The poll is great for finding out about those little games that get 10-100 votes each. The top few are boring, everyone knows aboutnthem already.<br /><br />That's why I say don't declare a winner. People have become too obsessed with first place when it's the 20th place guys that really count. This poll should be "Roguelike Highlights of the Year" rather than "Roguelike of the Year".Darren Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792164422274663420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2208890564265615027.post-59025706659426113272013-12-31T19:28:16.528+11:002013-12-31T19:28:16.528+11:00I think being able to choose your pet, almost-unkn...I think being able to choose your pet, almost-unknown roguelike is the best thing about this poll, I wouldn't want to see it go away.<br /><br />Vote spamming can be alleviated by requiring an email to confirm votes or a Facebook registration. Of course it's still not exactly rocket science to game that, but at least it should take some more work.<br /><br />Al-Khwarizmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417380066614629061noreply@blogger.com